Agreed. Optimus more or less said that if they Autobots had insisted on staying, it would have been worse for everybody. (And, hey, only 1,300 died in Chicago. All things considered, that is not so bad.)Like the Autobots weren't asked to leave Earth by the government after the Decepticons issued a threat in the first place?
Disagree. Being "a little disillusioned" qualifies as taking that sort of thing extremely well.I think it makes sense Optimus would become a little disillusioned with the human race after that.
My word for that scene was Baypravity. It was badly placed humour, similar to the boyfriend having the laminated card summarizing the "Romeo and Juliet" law. Both were funny as isolated gags. But, they establish things about the characters and setting that the writers should have followed up on.Don’t even get me started on when they suddenly turn into spiteful, murderous monsters for the whole time they’re on Lockdown’s ship. Hound liquefies a random alien for spitting on him. Our heroes, everybody!
For example, Space Wolves (in 40K) engage in staggering acts of violence. But, Space Wolves are known to be kind of assholes. Drift killing a caged alien moments after making a call for finding inner peace is funny in terms of blunt irony. But, it undermines the image of the Autobots as nice guys.
I do not need likable characters. But, they characters should be presented and marketed consistently within the same book/movie.
Hound's and Drift's actions might be thematically defensible, as the movie was (sort of) running with the idea that humans and Cybertronians are not especially nice as a rule, even if some individual members are. (Note Yeager's line to Prime about finding treasure among the junk. I forget the exact phrasing.)
I especially like that Hound is the one who initiated that interaction.Hound liquefies a random alien for spitting on him. Our heroes, everybody!
If I reacted that way to every animal that reacted with hostility after I had encroached on them (note the qualifier of me encroaching), my kill count for the last 10 years or so would include:
-more dogs than I care to think about.
-a comparable number of cats (including the 3 I have now, their predecessor, most of the cats my friends have owned, and most of the cats I have caught and found homes for).
-some Canadian geese.
-a red tailed hawk.
-a baby alligator.
(Adding animals that I just blundered across would up both the individual numbers and add a species or two.)
Two random thoughts:
-Crosshairs is the most overtly blood-hungry of the Autobots. But, he not only has the lowest kill count, his kills were the cleanest.
-Starscream comes across as more gentlemanly in "Reign of Starscream". His kills were either provoked or incidental. And, he specifically let several humans get away in one scene.
I really liked that scene. He was the first human character in any Bayformers movie that I wanted to see die who actually got killed. It was kind of rewarding to see him die. I really did not see it as hateful or mean-spirited. He was the character that died to prove the threat was real and got a measure of comeuppance (which is a reward for the audience).
The movie similarly continuously glorifies these hateful, mean-spirited moments. Marky Mark’s friend Adrian gets fried in the first hour, and the scene tastelessly lingers on his crispy corpse for naught but shock value.
I dunno about that. And, the character did change over the course of the movie. He was a definite improvement over same, (who I wish got a messy death scene).Cade Yeager (which is an awful, awful name),